wie gefährlich ist Pakistan wirklich?

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RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (CNN) -- The office of Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas has a bank of six flat-screen televisions covering most of one wall, showing all the main international English-language news channels, and several local ones besides.
Major General Athar Abbas addresses a news conference in Rawalpindi on April 28, 2009.

Major General Athar Abbas addresses a news conference in Rawalpindi on April 28, 2009.

This is one of the rooms where Pakistan's media war is being fought, and Abbas, the Pakistan army's main spokesman, is a key part of the battle.

I kid with him that CNN isn't among the channels on his screens, and he seems slightly hurt, insisting it is.

He's right and I'm wrong -- CNN was on a commercial break.

In fact, I rather get the impression Abbas, who has become the face of the army's operation against Taliban militants in the Swat Valley, watches our coverage closely. One of his subordinates complains about one of our reports -- not the accuracy, but something in the general tone. Perhaps CNN has been just a little too questioning of the army's daily press releases, which claim hundreds of enemy fighters killed, and tightly controlled media trips.

Whatever Abbas thinks of CNN, he is more than willing to explain how the Pakistan army sees the broad picture as it fights in the Swat Valley.

The current conflict there is intricately linked to the situation in Afghanistan, in his view.
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He sees Swat as a political problem, which can only be partially solved by military intervention.

He claims many of the Taliban's arms are coming across the border from Afghanistan. I ask if that includes NATO weapons, as suggested in recent reports, and he agrees.

He says Washington is too focused on the safety of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

The United States should "stop worrying about the nukes and start worrying about the weapons lost in Afghanistan," he says.

A U.S. government report last month warned that the Pentagon did not have "complete records" for about one-third of the 242,000 weapons the United States had provided to the Afghan army, or for a further 135,000 weapons other countries sent.

The Afghan army "cannot fully safeguard and account for weapons," the Government Accountability Office found.

I ask how well armed the Taliban are, and he says they are "very well equipped from the border area."

He also conspiratorially suggests they also are getting weapons and support from "foreign intelligence agencies."

When I ask what that means, he smiles and says he can't elaborate -- declining to repeat the speculation in the press here that India, Pakistan's traditional rival, may be somehow involved in stirring up trouble on Pakistan's northwestern border.

India denies that.

But the very suggestion plays to a military strategist's nightmare scenario -- the Pakistan army bogged down in the northwest, unable to focus on the disputed province of Kashmir, a key element of its conflict with India.

The military wants to get done in Swat as soon as possible, but the general acknowledges its troops will be there for some time.

He estimates that 10 to 15 percent of the Taliban there are foreign fighters: "Well-trained Arabs, Afghans, with a sprinkling of central Asians and North Africans."

He also says there are Yemenis, Saudis and Uzbeks fighting, as Pakistan has become the destination du jour of the international jihadist, with Arabs in commanding positions and the other foreign fighters bringing in expertise.

He thinks that perhaps Mingora, the main town at the gateway to the Swat Valley, may be secured in 48 hours, but it may be much, much longer before the area is totally pacified.

"First you have to disarm the Taliban and then re-establish the writ of government," he says.

He admits that Swat and neighboring Bajur Districts "were lost to the state" and that now "we are paying in blood for areas we had already occupied." Now, he says, the army is set for a long fight. "We are prepared for that -- we are mentally prepared."

But they are also prepared for the conflict to be taken to other parts of Pakistan. A building belonging to the country's powerful intelligence agency, the ISI, was bombed in Lahore this week. The Taliban claimed they carried out the attack and Abbas says the security services expect more attacks.

Just hours after I left him, his fears were confirmed, as details came in of more bombings in Peshawar.

And then there is also the risk of the Taliban using the mass exodus of civilians from the Swat Valley as cover to penetrate other towns and cities. Already almost 3 million people have flooded out of what was once a tranquil tourist destination, and the military fears that among the mass movement of humanity there will be those plotting to strike at the heart of Pakistan's cities.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/29/pakistan.army/index.html

wie schätzt ihr die Gefahr ein, die durch Pakistan ausgeht; eher Feind der westlichen Welt oder Verbündeter im Kampf gegen die Taliban?
 
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lol pakistan. neulich hat einer von denen unreine drogen verkauft, das nenn ich gefährlich.
 

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Original geschrieben von Sansucal

wie schätzt ihr die Gefahr ein, die durch Pakistan ausgeht; eher Feind der westlichen Welt oder Verbündeter im Kampf gegen die Taliban?
definiere "pakistan"

die regierung selbst ist eigentlich über jeden zweifel erhaben. wieviel kontrolle sie über alle organe etc. hat, ist eine andere sache...
 

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In erster Linie ist Pakistan im Moment eine Gefahr für sich selbst, dann für Indien, dann für Zentralasien, dann für Russland und China; am Ende der Kette steht dann der Westen. Ich staune immer wieder wie egozentrisch die westliche Welt ist...
 
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Gefährlich wird es in erster Linie erst dann, wenn Pakistan durch seine innere Zerissenheit zerfällt, und gegenfalls Atomtechnologie in die falschen Hände gerät.
 
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Pakistan ist nen ganz heißer Kandidat für den größten Krisenherd. Wichtig ist die Regierung da auf jeden Fall an der Macht zu halten, weil sie das einzige Bollwerk gegen die Islamisierung des Landes darstellt.
So richtige Verbündete sind das nicht, dafür gehen sie nicht hart genug gegen die Taliban und Stammeskrieger vor.
 
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Dafür ist das Land in seiner Organisationstruktur auch viel zu kurrupt.
Der einzigste Stabilitätsfaktor für die westliche Welt stellt hierbei das aktuelle Regime da, welches allerdings auch nur so lange Arsch für Europa und die USA hinhält, so lange sie Geld in den Arsch gepumpt kriegen.

Könnte mir gut vorstellen, dass bereits Unternehmungen zu Gange sind, die Atomwaffenarsenale außer Land zu schaffen. Ob seiten Pakistans freiwillig, oder auch nicht.
 
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